in exchange for costing a Rouse Check where Awe is free to use? And Entrancement also requires an immediate roll to work (as opposed to a roll that only triggers if the subject knows they're being affected, for Awe). And Entrancement works for all social rolls, not just Charisma-based ones. Lingering Kiss lasts longer - but who cares, when Awe is free to use? Lingering Kiss is described as making the Kiss addictive and drawing people back to get it again - but there's absolutely no mechanical effect for that described in the power. basically the same thing, except with various restrictions and drawbacks. Awe lets you add Presence dice to social rolls, and then Lingering Kiss and Entrancement let you do. According to the rules for Presence, you can't stack up different powers that add Presence to social rolls, which is what all those powers do. well, mistakes is the only possible word for it. Presence 2 and 3, Lingering Kiss and Entrancement, seem to be. Seriously, though, it's just a simple rules question that's been bugging me since I got a copy of V5 for Christmas.

I know, a V5 thread that's not dedicated to complaining about the Hunger mechanic or the Second Inquisition - is that even allowed?

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